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KHAN001
05-31-2008, 11:53 PM
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:salam:
IS MAI un aitraazat ke jawabat hai jin ko shia kala kafir rozana uchalte rehte hai ...
so all memers should read it completly
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Taha_Ali
06-16-2008, 07:42 AM
Aap is link sey is Kitab ko Download kar saktai hain
http://rapidshare.com/files/122786039/H ... T.rar.html (http://rapidshare.com/files/122786039/HAZRAT-MUAHVIA-_R-Z_-PER-AITRAZAT-AUR-UNKE-JAWABAT.rar.html)

mufti-e-azam
07-19-2008, 06:04 AM
yaar mujhay aik baat samajh nahi aati k aakhir aap loag sirf books ka hi sahara kiun letay hain...aap khud se kuch kiun nahi kehtay..kiya Allah ne aap loagon ko aqal nahi di ?? pehli baat jo aap loagon ne hum per ilzam lagaya hai k shia kehtay hain k mawiya ne hazrat ayesha ko shaheed kiya to janab yeh sirf hum nahi kehtay balkeh aap k ahle sunnat ki books mein bhi yeh baat mojood hai..yeh scan page mojood hai aap ki book ka to janab ab aap k mawiya k liye 2 gawahian poori ho gaye hain :))

mufti-e-azam
07-19-2008, 06:10 AM
banu ummaiya jitnay ausaf e hameeda rakhtay thay woh to aap history perhein to aap ko samajh mein aa hi jaye ga...tabhi to hinda se Rasool Allah saww ne bohat hi mukhtalif baiat li k tum wada karo k aaj k baad tum zinnahi nahi karo gi..wada karo k aaj k baad tum apnay bachon ko zinda dafan nahi karo gi aur wada akro k aaj k baad tum chori nahi karo gi...aur kahin bhi nahi likha k hinda ne wada kiya ho ya tasleem kiya ho k woh aisa kerti thi balkeh ulta Rasool Allah saww per sawal ker k unn ko jhoota sabit kernay ki koshish kerti rahi to janab zindon ko gerhay mein dafan kerna to mawiya ne apni maa ki goad se seekha aur janab aap k writer ne kaha k gerha khodnay ki baat arabion k zehan mein nahi aati balkeh ajmion k zehan mein aati hai...janab aap k writer ya to bhool rahay hain ya phir munafaqat ker rahay hain kiun k yehi arab thay jo apni betion ki gerha khod ker zinda dafan ker detay thay...kuch yaad aaya khan sahab ?? ab dekhein dono waqiyat kitnay miltay jultay hain...pehlay bhi zinda dafan kertay thay ab bhi waisa hi kaam kiya...to janab aap k writer sahab to yahan bhi jhootay aur zaleel huay meray hathon...ab dekhtay hain k agay aur kitna zaleel hotay hain

mufti-e-azam
07-19-2008, 07:15 AM
aur janab ab aap k writer ne mawiya k naam k matlab per baat ki k uss ka matlab bhonknay wali kuttiya nahi hai to ab dekhtay hain k kiya waqai aap k authentic writers aap k iss aam se mulla se ittefaq kertay hain ya nahi...aap k imam sayuti ki book tarikh ul khulfa ka scan page hai jis mein likha hai k mawiya ka matlab aisi kuttiya hai jo bhonk bhonk ker kutton ko bulati hai...aur yeh to aap bhi maanein ge k jitni arabic imam sayuti jantay thay utni aap k yeh mulla nahi janta kiun k aap k imam sayuti ne tafseer darra e manshoor bhi likhi hai..to yeh koi aam se mulla nahi hai...to janab aap hi k imam sayuti ne aap k iss mulla ko apni book se aik baar phir zalalat k gerhay mein dhakail diya hai..kash k yeh meray samnay aisi baatein kerta..to iss ko samnay zaleel kernay per kitna maza aata hai...waisay meray paas aur bhi books k scna pages hain jis mein mawiya ka amtlab barking bitch hi bataya gaya hai lakin mein ne aik book iss liye di k aik to urdu mein thi dosra aap imam sayuti ko achi terha jantay bhi hon ge...

mufti-e-azam
07-19-2008, 07:30 AM
aur ab baat kertay hain k kiya mawiya k baray mein koi hadees hai ya sab jhooti ya banu ummaiya ki paidawar hain ?? abhi mein ne 3 scan pages upload kiye hain jo k aap ki authentic books mein se hain...jin mein likha hai ulma ne k mawiya ki shan mein jitni bhi ahadees hain woh sab jhooti hain aur ik bhi hadees mawiya ki shaan mein nahi hai...to janab aap ka writer aik baar phir zaleel hua aur jhoota sabit hua aap hi ki books se...

mufti-e-azam
07-19-2008, 07:34 AM
aur aap k writer ne kaha k mawiya emaan pehlay la chuka tha magar baap k darr ki wajah se fatah makkah per elaan kiya...to janab aap batana pasand karein ge k agar yeh taqiyyah nahi tha to phir mawiya ko munafiq kehna ghalat to nahi ho ga na....

mufti-e-azam
07-19-2008, 11:46 AM
aur janab yeh choti magar bohat hi ahm baat hai..sahih bukhari k scan pages hain jis mein aap dekho k sab k liye writer ne fazeelat ka lafz likha hai magar mawiya k liye lafz tazkera likha hai means mawiya ki koi fazeelat nahi hai...samajhnay walay k liye ishara hi kafi hota hai..

KHAN001
07-30-2008, 09:59 PM
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banu ummaiya jitnay ausaf e hameeda rakhtay thay woh to aap history perhein to aap ko samajh mein aa hi jaye ga...tabhi to hinda se Rasool Allah saww ne bohat hi mukhtalif baiat li k tum wada karo k aaj k baad tum zinnahi nahi karo gi..wada karo k aaj k baad tum apnay bachon ko zinda dafan nahi karo gi aur wada akro k aaj k baad tum chori nahi karo gi...aur kahin bhi nahi likha k hinda ne wada kiya ho ya tasleem kiya ho k woh aisa kerti thi balkeh ulta Rasool Allah saww per sawal ker k unn ko jhoota sabit kernay ki koshish kerti rahi to janab zindon ko gerhay mein dafan kerna to mawiya ne apni maa ki goad se seekha aur janab aap k writer ne kaha k gerha khodnay ki baat arabion k zehan mein nahi aati balkeh ajmion k zehan mein aati hai...janab aap k writer ya to bhool rahay hain ya phir munafaqat ker rahay hain kiun k yehi arab thay jo apni betion ki gerha khod ker zinda dafan ker detay thay...kuch yaad aaya khan sahab ?? ab dekhein dono waqiyat kitnay miltay jultay hain...pehlay bhi zinda dafan kertay thay ab bhi waisa hi kaam kiya...to janab aap k writer sahab to yahan bhi jhootay aur zaleel huay meray hathon...ab dekhtay hain k agay aur kitna zaleel hotay hain

AUR AP KE PEHLA HAWALA AP NE JIS SAHAB KI KITAB SE DIYA HAI WO SUNNI NAHI HAI WO HAMARE NAZDEK KAFIR HAI KAFIR ......WO EK INDIA KA EK NA MALOOM ALIM ....HAI JO HUM PER DLEEL NAHI ./...
BANU UMAIYA KI TAREK MEN PARHI HAI AUR MUJE PATA HAI KOI GALAT KAMNAHI HOWE UNKE DOR MAI YE SAB TUMHARA PROPEGNADA US DOR SE CHALA ARAHA HAI AUR UNKO BADNAM KARTY ARHE HO ....RAHI BAT BAIT KI TO ALLAH KE RASOOL SAB MAR AUR AURAT SE AISE HI BAIT LETE THAY IS MAI HZRAT HINDA KO MAKHSOOS KARNA TUMHARA HI KAM HAI ...............YE SARI RIVAYATE TAREEK KI RO SE GALAT HAI JOKE MAI IS BOOK SE SABIT KAR CHUKA HO AP KE PASS ILMI JAWAB NAHI SIRF AISE FALTO TER MARNE SE KUCH NHI HOTA..
KABHI APNI TAREEK PAR LO HAR DOR MAI ISLAM KO TABAH KARN KI KOSHISH ........

KHAN001
07-30-2008, 10:11 PM
aur janab ab aap k writer ne mawiya k naam k matlab per baat ki k uss ka matlab bhonknay wali kuttiya nahi hai to ab dekhtay hain k kiya waqai aap k authentic writers aap k iss aam se mulla se ittefaq kertay hain ya nahi...aap k imam sayuti ki book tarikh ul khulfa ka scan page hai jis mein likha hai k mawiya ka matlab aisi kuttiya hai jo bhonk bhonk ker kutton ko bulati hai...aur yeh to aap bhi maanein ge k jitni arabic imam sayuti jantay thay utni aap k yeh mulla nahi janta kiun k aap k imam sayuti ne tafseer darra e manshoor bhi likhi hai..to yeh koi aam se mulla nahi hai...to janab aap hi k imam sayuti ne aap k iss mulla ko apni book se aik baar phir zalalat k gerhay mein dhakail diya hai..kash k yeh meray samnay aisi baatein kerta..to iss ko samnay zaleel kernay per kitna maza aata hai...waisay meray paas aur bhi books k scna pages hain jis mein mawiya ka amtlab barking bitch hi bataya gaya hai lakin mein ne aik book iss liye di k aik to urdu mein thi dosra aap imam sayuti ko achi terha jantay bhi hon ge...

MUJE ABHI BOHAT AFSOOS HO RAHA HAI APKI KAM ILMI AUR JAHALAT PER ....IMAM SAYUTI :rahm:NE TAREEK LIKHI HAI AUR TAREEKH MAI HAR RIVAYAT KO MAN WA AN ZIKAR KAR KE LIKHA JATA HAI US MAI KOI TEHQEEQ NAHI HOTI ...AUR IMAM SAYUTI :rahm:NE KESI EK SHIA JO US DOR MAI HAZRAT ALI :Radi: AUR HAZRAT MUAHVIA :Radi: KE DARMIAN FASAD BARPA KARNE WALA GROUP KA MEMBER THA US KI MUALAQAT KA WAQIYA BAYAN KIYAA HAI TAREEK MAI YAHI HOTA HAI AUR HAZRAT MUAVIA :Radi: TO US KO JANTAY THAY AUR UN KO ISLAM S DISHMANI THI AGAR WO HAZRAT MUAVIA :Radi:KO KOSENGE NAHI TO KIYA KARENGE ......BAQI IS NAM KA MATLAB YE NAHI YE AP KI ARABIC SE KAM ILMI HAI AGAR ARABIC ATI TO US KITAB MAI JO MUSANIF :rahm: NE LIKHA HAI INSHALLAH HIMMAT NA HOTI AP KO AITRAAZ KI LEKIN ARABIC NAHI ATI IS LIYE TO TUM KEH RAHE HO ......HAR INSAF PASAND SHAKS AP KA YE HAWALA PAR KAR KHUD FAISLA KAR SAKTA HAI ....AUR YE AP KI BARI KAM ILMI HAI KE IS KO AP IMAM SAYUTI KI TARAF MANQOL KAR RAHE HAI JABKE YE UNKA APNA QOL NAHI ...ISI KITAB MAI HZRAT MUAHVIA KE FAZAIL BI HAI .... AFSOOS TUM JAHIL HO ....

KHAN001
07-30-2008, 10:32 PM
aur ab baat kertay hain k kiya mawiya k baray mein koi hadees hai ya sab jhooti ya banu
ummaiya ki paidawar hain ?? abhi mein ne 3 scan pages upload kiye hain jo k aap ki authentic
books mein se hain...jin mein likha hai ulma ne k mawiya ki shan mein jitni bhi ahadees hain
woh sab jhooti hain aur ik bhi hadees mawiya ki shaan mein nahi hai...to janab aap ka writer aik baar phir zaleel hua aur jhoota sabit hua aap hi ki books se...

aur aap k writer ne kaha k mawiya emaan pehlay la chuka tha magar baap k darr ki wajah se
fatah makkah per elaan kiya...to janab aap batana pasand karein ge k agar yeh taqiyyah nahi
tha to phir mawiya ko munafiq kehna ghalat to nahi ho ga na....

aur janab yeh choti magar bohat hi ahm baat hai..sahih bukhari k scan pages hain jis mein aap dekho k sab k liye writer ne fazeelat ka lafz likha hai magar mawiya k liye lafz tazkera likha hai means mawiya ki koi fazeelat nahi hai...samajhnay walay k liye ishara hi kafi hota hai..




JAHIL US DOR MAI KUCH AHADEES WAZAH KI GAYE THI JIS KO AL MOZOAT MAI ZIKAR KIYA GAYA HAI JIS SE AP KA YE KEHNA GALAT HAI KE SAB AHADEES JHOOTI HAI MUHADISSEEN NE UN SAB AHADEES KO JO BANAE GAYE THI ALAG KAR DIYA HAI AUR JO SAHIH AHADEES THI WO AJ BI HAI JIS MAI HAZRAT MUAHVIA KI SHAN AUR FAZAIL BAYAN KIYE GAYE HAI YE AP KA JAHILANA AITRAAZ HAI KIYON KE AP NE JO SCAN DIYE HAI USI KO GHOR SE DEKHE WO HADEESE MUSANIFEEN NE NAQAL KAR DI HAI JO BANAE GAYE THI JIS MAI SAHIH HADEES KI TARAF NA KOI ISHARA HAI NA SAHI HADEES KA MATAN ....TO SAF HO GAYA MAMLA KE JO THI WO BAYAN KARDI GAYE HAI AUR JO SAHIH HAI WO AJ BI HAI SCAN SUBMIT KAR KE AP NE APNA MOUN AUR KALA KAR DIYA ......JIS SE SABIT HOGAYA KE AJ JO AHADEES HAZRAT MUAHVIA KE FAZAIL MAI HAI WO SAHIH HAI ...

US WAQT NABI ALAISALAM KA YE HUKUM THA .IS KO AP TAQIYA KAHE JO BI KAHE LEKIN US WAQT RASOOL NE HUKUM DIYA TO AP NE HUKUM PER AMAL KIYA LEKIN BAD MAI AILAN KAR DIYA .........AUR TAQIYA KI TAREEEF AP APNI HI KITABO SE SAHIH DEKH LE TO ACHA HAI YE MAI BATA DO ..........?PHIR AP APNE AP KO KHUD MUNAFIZ MANOGE ....

AUR AKRI BAT TUM NE FAZELAT KI KIHAI JO AP NE SIRF BUKHARI KA SCAN DIKAYA HAI JABKE ISI BUKHARI MAI HAZRAT MUAHVIA KE LIYE JANNAT KI BASHARAT HAI AUR BAQI UNKI FAZELAT KI HADEES AP KI BAYAN KE MUTABIQ NAHI HAI JABKE JAMA TIRMIZI MAI HAZRAT MUAHVIA KE MUNAQIB HAI AUR SAHIH MUSLIM MAI HAI UNKI FAZELAT ZAROORI NAHI KE BUKHARI MAI NAHI TO UNKI FAZELAT NAHI ......IMAM BUKHARI KO KESI SE AISE HADEES NAHI MILI HOGI ISI WAJA SE NAHI ZIKAR KI HOGI LEKIN IMAM TARMIZI AUR IMAM MUSLIM KO MILI HAI ...AUR EK AUR BAT SUNLE MUHADDISIN KE USOOL KE MUTABIQ SAHIH MUSLIM ZIADA STRONG AUR SAHIH KITAB HAI BUKHARI SE ...AUR YE TO BAQI ULAMA SE CHALA ARAHA HAI KE BUKHARI ZIADA SAHI HAI LEKIN KESI MUHADDIS SE POCH LO YAQEEN AJAEGA........TO MERI BAT NA BUKHARI KI FAZELAT KAM KARNA HAI NA MUSLIM KI LEKIN EK BAT BATANA HAI KE JIS MUHADIIS KO JO HADEES MILI UNHO NE NAQAL KARDI AB IMAM BUKHARI KO NAHI MILI ZAROORI NAHI KE UNKI KOI FAZELAT NAHI........ISI TARA BOHAT SE SAHABA KARAM HAI UNKA BI ZIAKR NAHI TO KIYA UNKI BI FAZELAT NAHI ?


BYKHAN001

someone
09-20-2008, 02:53 AM
AB GHOR SE SUNO AAP LOG...

APNI APNI, NIYAT KO SAAF KAR KE, ZABARDSTI, APNE AQEEDE PE REH KE NAHI, AGAR SACH KA SATH DENA AHI, TO, APNE AQEEDE SE ZARA HAT KAR PIR, YE PARHAIN AOR FAISLA KARAIN.


ISS BAAT ME KISI KO KOI, IKHTILAAF NAHI, CHAHE SHIA CHAHE SUNNI, DEOBANDI BRELVI, IS WAQT JO BHI MERA REPLY PARH RAHA HAI, MUSLIM HAI, TO SHAID YE JANTA HOGA KE,

HAZOOR PAK ( SAAWAW) KO GALI DENE KE BAD, HAR EK KAFIR HO JAYA KARTA HAI, HAZAR KUFR SHIRK EK TARAF, JIS DIN KISI NE HAZOOR ( SAAWAW) KO GAALI DE DII, USKE BAAD USKE LIYE JAHANAM KA SAB SE AKHRI DARJA, USKE BAAD KUFR SHIRK KI HADAIN BHI KHATM HO JATI HAIN.
KIA MAINE GHALT KAHA?????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????

AB FAISLA APNE AAP KARAIN, ME NAHI BOLTA ... JO APKA DIL KAHE , PAR KHIAL RAKHNA, HAZOOR (SAAWAW) KO GALI DENE WALOON KE SATH MIL KAR, KAHIN AAP APNI JAHANAM NA BANA LENA, DEKHO LARAI, SUNI SHIA KO EK TARAF RAKH KAR, APNI JAHANAM SE TO BACHO, NA AESE JAHANAM MAIN GIRO, MENE EK AOR JAGA BI REPLY ME KAHA, KE SUNI SHIA KO RAKHO EK TARAF, AOR AA JAO, APNI APNI APNI GHALTIYAN KHATM KAR LO SACHE DIL SE....

AB SONO...

AMEER MAVIA NA SIRF HAZRAT ALI (AS) BALKE HAZRAT IMAM HASSAN (AS) AOR HAZRAT IMAM HOSSAIN (AS) KO GALIYAN DETA BALKE IN PAAK HASTIYOON (AS) PE KHUTBE MAIN LANAT BHEJTA THA AOR LOGOON KO BHI KEHTA THA GALIYAN DO INN PAK HASTIYOON (AS) KO . NAOOZOOBILLAH (SWT) (HAWALA MISHKAT SHARIF, AOR BOHT SI MUSTANID AHLESUNAT KI KITABIN)

AB EK AOR SAHI HADIS SANAD KE SATH JIS MAIN FARMAN KE MUTABIQ:

HAZOOR (SAAWAW) KI ZOJA PAK HAZRAT UMME SALMA (AS) RIVAYAT KARTI HAIN KE,
HAZOOR (SAAWAW) KE FARMAN KE MUTABIQ, JIS KISI NE BHI HAZRAT ALI (AS) KO GALI DI YA JO BHI BURA LAFZ KAHA, USSNE WO GALI AOR WO BURA LAFZ MUJHE KAHA.
NAUZUBILLAH (SWT)

(HAWALA: 1. AHLESUNAT KE IMAM, IMAM HANBAL KI MASNAD AHMAD
2. SIHAHE SITTA KI, KITAB NISAI SHAREEF
3. IMAM HAKIM KI KITAB MUSTADRIK HAKIM)

AB, PARHNE WALO... YEH TO SAHI RIVAYAAT SE SABIT HO GIA KE, AMEER MAAVIA NE
HAMARE PIYARE NABI (SAAWAW) KO GALIYAN DEEN NA SIRF GALIYAAN BALKE GANDII GANDII GALIYAAN, AOR GANDI GANDI GALIYAAN LOGOON SE BHI KAHA KE DO.

SIRF YE NAHI, HAZRAT UMME SALMA (AS) KIUNKE BAD KE DOR MAIN BHI MOJOOD THEEN, TO AAP (AS) NE EK, SAHABI RASOOL (SAAWAW) KO BULA KE FARMAYA, KE
YEH KIYA, AESA WAQT AA GIYA KE, HAZOOR (SAAWAW) PE GALIYAAN DI JA RAHI HAIN, AOR TUM KHAMOSH BETHE HO, UN SAHABI (AR) NE POCHA KESE,
TO HAZRAT UME SALMA (AS) NE FARMAYA, MAIN NE KHUD NABI (SAAWAW) SE SUNA HAI,
JIS KISI NE BHI HAZRAT ALI (AS) KO GALI DI YA JO BHI BURA LAFZ KAHA, USSNE WO GALI AOR WO BURA LAFZ MUJHE KAHA.
NAUZUBILLAH (SWT)

TO AMIR MAVIA ISKE BAAD BHI NA RUKA, AOR YEH DEKHTE HUE KE, HAZOOR (SAAWAW) PE GALIYAN JA RAHI HAIN, USSNE KAHA JANE DO, CHAHE HAZOOR (SAAWAW) PE BHI JA RAHI HAIN TO, MUJHE KOI PARWA NAHI, NAOOZOOBILLAH (SWT).

AB PARHNE WALO, AAP PE CHORA JO FAISLA KARO,,,, HAAN YE YAAD RAKHNA, APKI HIMAYAT AAR, HAZOOR (SAAWAW) KO GALIYAN DENE WALOON MAIN SHAMIL HO GAE, TO MOT KO CHAND DIN BAQI HAIN, USKE BAAD, LAMBA ARSA HAI, APNA FAISLA KAR LO, KOI ZOR NAHI HAI, NA SHIA KI JEET HAI NA SUNNI KEE, AAPKI APNI QISMAT KA FAISLA HAI... KISI NE YAHAN TAK KEH DIA KE,

AMIR MAVIA KE SAB GUNAH EK TARAF IS CHEEZ KI MAAFI NAHI HO SAKTE, KE HAZRAT ALI (AS) KO AESI PAK HASTI KO GALIYAAN, NAUZOBILLAH (SWT).

AGAR KOI KEHTA HAI, SAHABI THEY. TO ZARA APNI AQL SE YE BATAO, KE CHALO AGAR KOI SAHBI HO, MUJHE EK SAWAL KA JAWAB DO. JIS DIN WOH HAZOOR (SAAWAW) KO GALI DE DE USKE BAAD NAOOZOOBILLH (SWT) , SAHABI REHTA HAI WOH, YA MALOON BAN JATA HAI,


BAQI AMIR MAVIA PE, JO, AETRAZAT KE JAWABAT DIYE GAE, RISALA MAIN AB TAK, TO US TARAF MAIN ATA HOON, WESE AETRAZAT TO AOR BHI BOHT HAIN, JINKE JAWAB NA KAHI KISI SE BAN SAKTE HAIN NA KOI BANA SAKTA HAI, NA AB TAK BANE HAIN, PAR YAHAN SHAID 2 YA 3 AETRAZAT PE LIKHA GIYA...

1. HAZRAT AEYSHAH (AS) KA QATL NAUZUBILLAH (SWT)


AETRAZ KA JAWAB DETE WAQT YE KAHA GIYA KE, HAZRAT AYESHAH (AS) SE KIA DUSHMANI HO SAKTI HAIN USKO,
TO JAWAB YEH HAI, HAZRAT AYESHAH (AS) SE WOHI DUSHMANI HO SAKTI HO USKO, JO KE HAZRAT AYESHAH (AS) KE BHAI KO QATL KARNE KE WAQT THI, HAR SUNI DEOBANDI BRELVI AALIM IS BAAT KO SHAYD JANTA HOGA, AOR SAHI KITABOO MAIN DARJ HAI KE,

HAZRAT AYESHAH (AS) KE BHAI HAZRAT MOHAMMAD BIN ABI BAKR (AR) KO NA SIRF AMIR MAVIA NE QATL KARAYA BALKE , UNKI LASH PAK KA QEEMA BANA KE EK GADHE KI KHAL AMIN DAL KE JALAI.

HAZRAT AYESHAH (AS) SE SIRF DUSHMANI HI NAHI BOHT BARI DUSHMANIYAN THEEN USKO, WO YEH KE,
1. HAZRAT ALI (AS) SE SULAH KION KEE HAZRAT AYESHAH (AS) NE
2. HAZRAT ALI (AS) SE SULAH KARNE KE BAD, MAAFI KIUN MANGI, HAZRAT AYESHAH (AS) NE, KIUNKE HAZRAT AYESHAH (AS) IS BAAT PE ITNA ROTEEN KE DOOPAATA BHEEG JATA, KE MAIN NE HAZRAT ALI (AS) SE JANG KAR KE BOHT BOHT BARI GHALTI KEE (HAWAL HAZRAT MULA ALI QARI SUNNI ALIM)

3. HAZRAT AYESHAH (AS) KE BHAI (AR) KO JAB QATL KAR DIYA AMIR MAVIA NE TO HAZRAT AYESHAH (AS) APNE BHAI SE AESA DUKH BHARA WAQEA SUNNE KE BAAD GHAMZADA HO GAEEN AOR AMIR MAVIA KE LIYE BAD DUA KARTI THEEN.

DUSHMANI TO HO GAEE.

AB, AATE HAIN, IS BAAT KI TARAF KE,,,,, BOOK WALE NE KAHA,, KE SIRF SHIA NE GHARA HAI YEH WAQEA............ TO PHIR USKE JAWAB MEIN EK SHIAH NE EK KITAB KA HAWAL DIYA, TO KHAN KE ID SE, KISI NE KAHA KE, YEH HAWALA BHI INDIA KE KISI SHIA KA HAI IS LIYE HAMARE LIYE KOI DALEEL NAHI RAKHTA,

TO JANAB, WO RISALA APKE LIYE DALIL NAHI RAKHTA, PAR YEH TO DEKHO NA, KE US RISALA MAIN HAWALA KIS KA DIYA GIYA HAI, US RISALA MAIN BHI HAWALA MOJOOD HAI, KE

AHLESUNAT KI MASHHHOOR PURANI KITAB, "TAREEKH IBNE KHALDOON" KA HAWALA HAI, US RISALA MAIN, WO TO SHIA KI KITAB NAHI HAI,

USS KA HI HAWALA HAI, KE, KESE KESE, BIBI (AS) PE ZULM KAR KE UNN BIBI (AS) PE, JO CHOTI SEE THEEN TO HAZOOR (SAAWAW) KI BOHT PIARI ZOJA (AS) HUA KARTI THEEN, MUSKARATI THEEN HAZOOR (SAAWAW) KE SATH, BAZURGI KI UMAR MAIN AAEN TO, GARHE MAIN ZINDA DAFN KARKE, NEECHE TALWARAIN LATKA KE, ZINDA JISM KO SEEDHI TALWAROON PE AOR PHIR ZINDA JISM KE OOPER CHOONA DAL KE, OOPER MATTI DAAL DEE.

BIBI (AS) AAP (AS) KA GHAM BOHT BARA HAI,

AOR SIRF HAZRAT AYESHAH (AS) AOR UNKE (AS) BHAI (AR) HI NAHI,
HAZRAT IMAM HASSAN (AS) KO ZEHR DE KAR SHAHID KARANE WALA BHI AMIR MAVIA. (HAWALE TO BOHT HAIN IS RIVAYAT KE, WESE PAKISTAN MAIN B.A KI ISLAMIYAT KI KITAB MAIN BHI YE LIKHA HAI)
YEH KESA INSAAF HAI,
HAZRAT ALI (AS) KE QATIL IBNE MULJIM MALOON KO TUM SAB KAFIR KEHTE HO, MALOON KEHTE HO, HALANKE WO BI SAHABI THA,
AOR HAZRAT IMAM HASSAN (AS) KE QATIL KO KUCH BHI NAHI, APNE HI BANAE HUE RULE PE TO CHALO, EK TARAF KUCH AOR QANOON DOSRI TARAF KUCH AOR.

ISSY EK AMIR MAVIA, NE HAR PAK HASTI (SAAWAW) (AS) (AR) KA POORA POORA KHANDAN (AS) (AR) QATL KAR DALA,

KAHEEN HAZRAT ABU BAKR (RA) KA KHANDAN (AR) MAR DALA TO KAHEEN HAZOOR (SAAWAW) KA KHANDAN (AS) AOR HAZRAT ALI (AS) KA KHANDAN (AS) AOR HAZRAT USMAN (RA) KO QATL KAR DIA. HAZRAT ALI (AS) KE FARMA KE MUTABIQ, MAVIA TOO ACHI TARAH JANTA HAI HAZRAT USMAN (RA) KA QATIL TOO HI HAI
EK BANDE NE POORA ISLAM UJAR DIYA.
YEH TAREEKH IBNE KHALDOON BOHT PURAANI AHLESUNAT KI KITAB HAI,

KHER. WESE EK SAWAL AAP SAB PARHNE WALOON SE KARTA HOON. CHAHE DOBANDI HO YA BRELVI, SHIA YA AHLEHADIS.
APNE APNE AQEEDE KO EK TARAF RAKH KE, MERI EK BAT KA JAWAB DO,

YE TO DUNYA KA HAR ALIM MANTA HAI, ISPE KISI BI FIRQE KO ETRAZ NAHI, KE
HAZRAT AYESHAH (AS) KE BHAI HAZRAT MOHAMMAD BIN ABI BAKR (RA) KA QATL AMIR MAVIA NE KIA, AOR SIRF QATL NAHI, LASH PAK KA QEEMA BANA KAR GADHE KI KHAL MAIN DAL KE JALAYA,

AB ZARA APNE AQL AOR SHAOOR SE FAISLA KARO...
KION BAR BAR KEHTE HO, ZOR DE DE KAR KEHTE HO, KE BEHN (AS) KA QATL AMIR MAVIA NE NAHI KIA, JAB YE BARE ARAAM SE TUMNE MAAN LIYA KE, BHAI (AR) KA QATL USSI AMIR MAVA NE KIA HAI, TO BEHN (AS) KA MAAN LENE MAIN KONSA PROBLEM NAZAR AA RAHA HAI TUMKO.
AGAR BHAI (AR) KE QATL KE BAAD BHI TUM SAMJAHTE HO KE AMIR MAVIA KA KUCH NAHI BIGARTA, TO BEHN (AS) KE QATL KE BAAD KIA BIGRE GA USKA, MAAN LO, KIONKE TUMARI NAZAR MEIN TO AMIR MAVIA KA KABI KUCH BIGARTA HI NAHI, WO JO BHI KARTA PHIRAY.
YAHAN BEHN (AS) PE TUMHAIN KION PROBLEM SHOROO HO JATEE HAI, BHAI (AR) KA QATL TO BARI ASANI SE HAZM KAR LIA TUMNE AOR KOI PROBLEM BHI NAHI HUE, EK HO GIA TO DOOSRA BHI SAHI,

AOR SAB, AQL O FEHM WALO, MERI BAT GHOR SE SUN KE KHUD FAISLA KARO, DEOBANDI APNI ZID CHOR KE, KIONKE MEINE KABI APNE MASLAK KE, LOGOON KI NAHI MAANI, TUM BHI NA MANO, APNA FAISLA KARO, BRELVI APNI ZID CHOR KE..SHIA AHLE HADIS APNI ZID CHOR KE, ...

DUSHMANI HOTI HAI, ZINDAGI TAK, JAB QATL KAR LIA THA, HAZRAT MOHAMMAD BIN ABI BAKR (RA) KO TO LASH PAK KO QEEMA BANA KE GADHE MAIN JALANA,

KIA AAPKI AQL YEH FASILA NAHI DETI KE, YEH SIRF DUSHMANI NAHI THI,


YE JALAN THI, JEALOUSY THI, JO AMIR MAVIA KI RAG RAG MAIN BHARI HUEE THI,
QATL KAR LENE KE BAD BHI, USKI NAS NAS KI JALAN KI PIAS NAHI BUJH RAHE THI,
WO, JALAN, JO USKE KHOON MAIN RAS CHUKI THI,
HAZRAT ALI (AS) KE KHILAAF, HAZRAT ABU BAKR (RA) KE KHILAF, HAZOOR (SAAWAW) KE KHILAAF, NAOOZOOBILLAH (SWT) .

KION AAKHIR KION, DUSHMANI THI TO QATL KARNE KE BAD TO INTIQAM KHATM HO JATA HAI , AAGE ITNI JALAN AOR ITNI DARINDGI ITNI JEALOUSY KION???

DOOSRA ETRAZ , LAFZ AMEER MAVIA KA MATLAB

JAB EK SHIA NE JAWAB KE TOR PE, HAZRAT JALALULDIN SAYOTI KA HAWAL DIA KE, UN KI KITAB MAIN, SAAF LIKHA HAI AMIR MAVIA KA MATLAB, WO BHONKNE WALI KUTIYA HAI JO KUTOON KO APNI TARAF BULTAI HAI,

TO KHAN NAAM KE EK BANDE NE JAWAB DIA KE, YEH TO JALALUDIN SAYOTI NE APNA MATLAB NAHI DIA BALKE YEH, EK RIVAYAT NAQL KI GAEE HAI,
TO JANAB, AGAR RIVAYAT BHI NAQL KI GAE HAI, TO BHI JALULDIN SAYOTI RIVAYAT NAQL KARTE WAQT ARBI TO JANTE THEY, AOR SAMJHE HONGE KE HAAN IS WORD MAVIA KA MALTAB YAHI HAI,
AOR, CHALO AGR THORI DER KE LIYE MAN LETE HAIN KE JALALUDIN SAYOTI NE MATLAB NAHI LIKHA BALKE, RIVAYAT NAQL KI HAI TO BHI,
JIN SAHABI (AR) HAZRAT JARIA (AR) NE AMIR MAVIA KO, MAVIA NAAM KA MATLAB BATAYA TO WO SAHABI (AR) TO ARAB THEY, ARBI SE KHOOB WAQIF THEY, UNKO TO MAVIA NAAM KA MATLAB PATA THA TO BATA BHI DIA,
AOR KHUD MAVIA KO TO APNE NAAM KA MATLAB PATA THA, JAB HAZRAT JARIA (RA) NE MATLAB BATAYA USKO USKE NAAM KA, USNE BHI KHAMOSH HO KE MAN LIA, KE HAAN MATLAB TO WAQEE YAHI HAI,
AB MAVIA TO JANTA THA MATLAB KE WO BHI NAHI JANTA THA

TEESRA ETRAZ ....... MAVIA KE MUTALIQ JHOOTI HADEESAIN

HAZRAT SHAH ABDUL HAQ MOHADIS DEHLVI, JO , KE, DEOBANDI AOR BELVI AOR AHLEHADIS AOR SAB AHLESUNAT KE, BOHT PURANE MOHADIS HAIN, JO, SHAH WALI ULLAH AOR SHAH ABDUL AZIZ MOHADIS DEHLVI SE BHI BOHT PURANE, BALKE IN SABKE USTADOON KE USTAD HAIN,
APNI KITAB, (MOARIJ-UL-NABOWAT YA MADARIJ-UL-NABOOWAT) MAIN LIKHTE HAIN, MAAVIA KE BAARE MAIN, JITNI BHI AHADIS HAIN SAB MAN-GHARAT HAIN KOI EK RIVAYAT BHI SANAD KO NAHI POHNCHATI, CHAHE JIS BHI KITAAB MAIN HAIN SAB PE TEHQEEQ KARNE KE BAAD PATA CHALTA HAI, KE SANAD KISI EK KO BHI NAHI, AOR YEH BHI KE, JO LOG KEHTE HAIN MAAVIA KAATIBE WAHI THA, IS BAAT KI BHI KOI SANAD NAHI MILTI, YE BHI MAN-GHARAT KHUD SE BANAI GAI EK BAAT HAI, YEH SAB BANAI HUE MAN GHARAT BAAT HAI,

YE BAAT APNI KITAB MAIN AMEER MAVIA KE CHAPTER MEIN LIKHI HAI UNHOON NE KOI DEKHNA CHAHE TO DEKH LE.

CHALO, AB IMAM NISAI (RA) KA HAWALA BHI SUN LO,
IMAM NISAI (RA) NE HAZRAT ALI (AS) KI FAZEELAT PE SAHI HADEESOON KI EK KITAB LIKHI, AMIR MAVIA KE CHAHNE WALOON NE POOCHA KE, AAP (RA) HAMAIN AMIR MAVIA KE MUTALIQ KOI HADIS SUNAIN, KIUNKE, AMIR MAVIA PARTY KO, HAZRAT ALI (AS) KI TAREEF KAHAN BARDASHT HOTI THI, BUGHZ TO PEHLE SE HI THA HAZOOR (SAAWAW) KE PAK KHANDAAN (AS) SE
KHER, IMAM NISAI (RA) NE KAHA, MAVIA KE BAARE MEIN TO EK BHI HADIS SANAD WALI NAHI, SIWAE IS KE, KE,

EK BAR, JAB MAVIA HAZOOR (SAAWAW) KE 3 BAR BULANE KE BAWAJOOD NA AYAA AOR KEH DETA KE MAIN KHANA KHA RAHA HOON, TO HAZOOR (SAAWAW) KE FARMAN KE MUTABIQ, AMIR MAVIA KA PET KABHI NA BHARRE.

IMAM NISAI (RA) NE KAHA, HAAN YEH EK HADIS HAI JO SAHI HAI MAVIA KE BARE MAIN ISKE ILAWA KOI HADIS SAHI NAHI, SAB MAN-GHARAT,

TO MAVIA KI PARTY NE GHOONSOON AOR MOKOON SE ITNA MARA KE IMAM NISAI (RA) KO SHAHID KAR DIYA,
IMAM NISAI (RA) KI SHAHADAT KE CHAPTER MAIN YEH WAQEA PARH SAKTE HO,

OK, AB, DEKHO, YEH FAISLA, SHIA SUNNI MASLAK KO EK TARAF RAKH KE KARNA HAI

SHIA BHI SUN LAIN,

HAZRAT BIBI AYESHAH (AS) KI SHAN MAIN GUSTAKHI, HAZOOR (SAAWAW) KI SHAN MAIN GUSTAKHI HAI KIUNKE, KISI MARD KO GALI DENI HO TO BEEWI KE NAAM SE GALI BOHT BARI GALI HOTI HAI,
NAOZOBILLAH (SWT)

AOR, MAVIA NE TO ITNI BARI GUSTAKHIAAAN KEEN, KE AB KOI AGAR USKA NAAM LETA HAI, TO, I THINK, PHIR SHIA SNNI KA MAMLA EK TARAF, WO KHUD JAN BOOJH KAR, APNE PER PE KULHARI MAR KAR, JAHANAM BANANA CHATA HAI,
KIA ITNI BHI AQL NAHI, AQL KHATM HO GAI KIA, MAVIA CHACHA LAGTA THA KE USKI KHATIR, JAHANAM MAIN JANA CHAHTE HO,

NAHI JANTE, USNE, KITNE QATL KIYYE??? KESI KESI GALIYAN DEEN RASOOL PAAK (SAAWAW) KO
NAOOZOOBILLAH (SWT).
POORI DUNYA, BRELVI DEOBANDI SAB KEHTE HAIN KHARJI JAHANAMI HAIN KHARJI KAFIR HAIN,
KIA BIGARA THA KHARJION NE,, KION KAFIR KEHTE HO,UNKO
YAHI WAJA HAI NA KE,
HAZRAT ALI (AS) SE JANG KEE THI,
ISKE ILAWA AOR TO KOI GHALTI UNSE NAHI HUE
JAB ISSY WAJA SE WO KAFIR HO GAE HAIN, TO
KHUD FISLA KARO, MAAVIA CHACHA TO NAHI KISI KA???
MAVIA NE TO KHARJION SE BHI BARE KAAM KIYYE,
SAHABI SAHABI KA SHOR NA MACHAO, SAHABI, TO KHARJIOON MAIN BHI THEY,
JAB HAZRAT ALI (AS) SE JANG KARNE PE, EK PARTY TUMHARE NAZAR MAIN KAFIR HO GAEE TO DOOSRI KION NAHI, DOOSRI CHACHA TO NAHI NA???
HALANKE JURM DOOSRI PARTY KA BOHT BOHT ZIADA HAI, GALIYAAN TO KHARJIOON NE NAHI DEEN HAZOOR (SAAWAW) KO, GAALIAAN TO MAVIA NE DEEN, NAUZUBILLAH (SWT).

BOHT BARI DALEEL

AKHIR MAIN EK BOHT BARI DALEEEL, JO MAAVIA KE JAHANAM MAIN JAANE KA KHULA ILAN HAI,

HAZOOR (SAAWAW) NE HAZRAT AMAAR BIN YASIR (RA) KE BARE MAIN FARMAYA KE AMAAR (RA) KO EK BAGHI GIROH QATL KARE GA, AMAAR (RA) UNKO JANAT KI TARAF BULA RAHE HOONGE AOR WO AMAAR (RA) KO JAHANAM KI TARAF.
(HAWALA: MUSTANID HADIS SAHI BUKHARI, SAHI MUSLIM)

AMAAR BIN YASIR (RA) NA SIRF BOHT BARE SAHABI (RA) HAIN BALKE JAB HAZOOR (SAAWAW) NE ISS DUNYA SE PARDA FARMAYA TO EK DAM HI HAZRAT ALI (AS) KE PAS AA GAE, KE AB HAZOOR (SAAWAW) KE BAAD, AAP (AS) HI AAQA HAIN AAP (AS) HI SARDAR (AS) HAIN
JAB HAZRAT AYESHAH (AS) NE HAZRAT ALI (AS) KE KHILAF JANG KA AGHAZ KIA, TO

HAZRAT AMAAR (RA) NE JAGA JAGA JA KAR LOGOON KO JAMA KAR KE TAQREERAIN KEEN AOR KAHA KE, AAI LOGO, SONO,
THEEK HAI, HAZRAT AYESHAH (AS) HAZOOR (SAAWAW) KI ZOJA (AS) HAIN AOR HAMARE LIYE IZAT KA MAQAM RAKHTI HAIN,
MAGAR SUN LO EK BAAT, HAQ HAZRAT ALI (AS) KE HI SATH RAHA HAI AOR RAHE GA,
ISS WAQT KAINAAT KE AAQA AOR SARDAAR, SIRF HAZRAT ALI (AS) HAIN, ALLAH (SWT) BHI HAZRAT ALI (AS) KE SATH HAI, ALLAH (SWT) KE RASOOL (SAAWAW) BHI HAZRAT ALI (AS) KE SATH HAIN,
AB HAZRAT ALI (AS) KE SATH REHNA, KIUNKE HAZRAT ALI (AS) KO CHORNE WALE KE LIYE JAHANAM HAI,
HAZRAT ALI (AS) KA SATH NA CHORNA,
PHIR BAD MAIN HAZRAT BIBI AYESHAH (AS) NE TO MAAFI MANG LEE HAZRAT ALI (AS) SE

AOR MAVIA, KE SATH JANG HUEE TO

HAZRAT AMAAR BIN YASIR (RA) NE MAVIA SE MUKHATIB HO KAR FARMAYA,
O MAVIA YE PEHLA MOQA NAHI KE, TOO MERE AAQA HAZRAT ALI (AS) KE MUQABLE MAIN AYAA HAI, IS SE PEHLE, BHI TO KAI BAAR, ISLAM KE MUKHALIF AATA RAHA HAI,
PHIR LARAI MAIN HAZRAT AMAAR BIN YASIR (RA) ISLAM KE KAFI DUSHMANOON KO, JAHANAM RASEED KARNE KE BAAD SHAHID HO GAE,

AB BATAO

HAZOOR (SAAWAW) NE TO FAISLA BHI FARMA DIYA THA, KE HAZRAT AMAAR (RA) KO QATL KARNE WALE JAHANMI HOONGE,
TO AB KION NAHI KEHTE JAHANMI MAVIA KO???
HAZOOR (SAAWAW) NE TO PEHLE HI, HAZRAT ALI (AS) KI PARTY KO JANAT KI PARTY AOR MAVIA AOR USKI PARTY KO JAHANMI PARTY KEH DIA, AB KONSI BAAT REH JATEE HAI MAAVIA KE LIYE,
AAKHIR KIA CHEEZ HAI JO TUM LOGOON KO, MAVIA KI TARAF LE JATEE HAI ZARA APNE DILS E POOCHO,,,
RISHTA DARI BHI NAHE, PHIR WO KOSNI MOHABAT HAI,, USKE SATH JO KHARJIOON KE SATH NAHI HOTI, HALANKE SAHABA UDHAR KHARJION MEIN BHI THEY,

YEH SAWAL APNE DILS E AAP KARO

Reehab
09-20-2008, 03:29 PM
wah jinab pata nahi kiis kisem ke insan ho mujh ko tum qadiyani ya pervezi lagty ho . tum ko to sharem aani chayeh jalellul qader shabi kper tohmet laga rahy ho. aru yeh batao jiss ne abu baker sadeek (RA) ko gali di jiss ne umary farooq (RA) ko gali di jiss ne usman ghani (RA) ko gali di jis ne tamam akbary sahab (RA) ko gali di us ki tum to favour ker rahy ho sahbash tumahri akkel per .
me tumhari tamam batoon ko regret kerta hoon. aru tum ab meri suno. jis terha tum apni baat kerty ho sunno to tum bhi sunno .
Duniya ke tamamm insan mil ker eik wali kay baraber nahi .. duniya ke tamma insan aur waliuoon mil ker eik tabi ke baraber nahi duniya ky insan wali tabyeen eik sahabi ke baraber nahi aru tammam insan wali tabyee aru sahabi mil ker iek abu baker (RA) ke babarber nahi aur tamam insan wali tabyee sahaba aur abu baker RA. eik nabi ke baraber nahi aur is terha tamam nabi mil ker iek humary nabi pak (PBUH) ke baraber nahi aur phir sub mil ker eik ALLAH ST ke baraber nahi. ok tum ko haque nahi kissi sahab per tabara karo . ab samjho aur chup ho ker koye wazhe dallel per aoo .

someone
09-20-2008, 11:42 PM
REEHAB,

TUMNE MERE PE ILZAAM LAGAYA KE, MAIN UN LOGOON KI FEVER KARTA HOON, JINHOON NE, HAZRAT ABU BAKR (RA) KO GALEE DEE NAUZUBILLAH (SWT).
MAIN HAZRAT ABU BAKR (RA) KO MAAN-NE WALA INSAN HOON,
MUJHPE KION AESA KEH RAHE HO,

HALAANKE,

REEHAB, TUM MERI POST MEIN ACHI TARAH PARH CHUKE HOGE SHAID, KE MAINE KAHA, KE SHIAH GUSTAAKH HAIN AOR CHAHE SUNNI CHAHE SHIA SAB APNI APNI GHALTIYUAAN MAAN LEIN, AOR SEEDHE HO JAAIN.

AB BATAO, MAINE KAB FEVER KEE???

AOR... TUM KHUD YE BATAO, AGAR TUM MAANTE HO, KE HAZRAT ABU BAKR (RA) KO GALI DENE WALA GUSTAKH HAI,
TO,
TO, HAZOOR (SAAWAW) KO GALI DENE WALA KITNA BARA GUSTAAKH HOGA NAUZUBILLAH (SWT)

HAZRAT ABU BAKR (RA) KI GUSTAKLHI KOI KARE TO TUMHARA DIL USKO GUSTAKH KEHTA HAI, MAGAR JAB KOI, HAZOOR (SAAWAW) KI GUSTYAKHI KARE, NAUZUBILLAH (SWT) TO KIUN TUMHARA DIL USKO GUSTAKH NAHI KEHTA
BOLO WOH BHI GUSTAKH HAI, BALKE SB SE BARA GUSTAAKH HAI,

BOLO NA REEHAB... KIUN NAHI BOLTE...
AB MAINE KIA APNI POST MAIN, AHLESUNAT KE HAWALE NAHI DIYYE, BAREEEEEEEEEE BAREEE OOOONCHI OOOOONCHI BOOKS KE HAWALE DIYE HAIN KE
MAAVIA NE , HAZRAT ALI (ASW) KO GALIYAAN DE KAR HAZOOR (SAAWAW) KO GALIYAAN DEEN NAUZUBILLAH (SWT), AOR SIRF DEEN NAHI LOGOON KO KAHA DETE RAHO, DIN RAAT DETE RAHO, BHARE BHARE MAJME MAIN DILWAAEN, KAII SAAL, I THINK 90 SAA TAK, DILWATA RAHA.
NAOOZOOBILLAH (SWT).
AB BOLO, MAINE KHUD KUCH KAHA, YA KITABOON SE PESH KIYAA??
MUJHE KION, KOS RAHE HO,
JO KITABOON MAIN LIKHA HAI, WO PARHO NA,,,

PHIR DECIDE KARO...
AOR TUMNE KAHA, HAMSE BARE WALI HOTE HAIN, WALIOON SE BARE TABI TABIOON SE BARE SAHABI, SAHABA MAIN BARE HAZRAT ABU BAKR (RA),
KIA TUMHARA YEH RULE, QURAN YA HADIS MAIN LIKHA HAI,
YA ISLAM MAIN KAHIN HAI,
YA BRELVIOON KI TARAH, BIDAT BANA LEE HAI TUMNE KHUD SE HII???
AGAR BIDAT HAI TO, BATA DO
AGAR ISLAM MAIN HAI YEH RULE, TO QURAN AOR HADIS KA HAWALA DO,

EK TO MOLVIOON NE ITNI BIDATAIN SHOROO KAR DEE HAIN KE, AB LOGOON NE KAI KAI RULE BANA LIYE HAIN JINKA ISLAM SE KOI TALUQ NAHI,
EK BAT ZEHN MAIN RKAHO, JAB KOI MOLVE TUMKO KOI RULE BATAE TO US SE POOCHNA KE, YEH TOO APNI TARAF SE BATA RAHA HAI, YA ISLAM MEIN BHI HAI, AGAR ISLAM MAIN HAI, TO QURAN AOR HADIS DIKHA,

ISSY TARAH YEH JO RULE TUMNE DIA, MUJHE, ISKA SABOOT BI USSI DIN MOLVE SE MANGTE NA JAB USNE TUMKO BATAYA THA,, TUMHARE GHALTI HAI KIUN NAHI MANGA THA SABOOT, USKI BIDAT SUN LEE AOR YAQEEN KAR LIYAA,,


CHALO, ITNA TO TUMHARA ASOOOL MAIN BHI MANTA HOON KE,
SAHABA (RA) BOHT BARE AOR OONCHAIN HAIN AOR IZAT KARNI CHAHYE
AOR MAIN BHI MANTA HOON, MAINE PICHLI POST MAIN BHI KAHA KE
SAHABA (AR) BOHT OONCHAI AOR ASMAN KE SITAARE HAIN
PHIR BHI,


AMIR MAVIA TO, SAHABI NAHI BANTA,


KIUNKE, SAHABI WO HOTA HAI, JO ISLAM PE QAIM RAHE, MARTE DAM TAK, MARN SE PEHLE AGAR ISLAM SE HAT GIA TO, SAHABI NAHI RAHA, AOR ISLAM KE LIYE ZAROORI HAI KE, HAZOOR (SAAWAW) KI IZAT KARE, JIS DIN KISI NE HAZOOR (SAAWAW) KI IZAT NAHI KI, YA ISLAM CHOR DIYA WO SAHABI NAHI RAHA,

AB MAINE DALEELOON SE, WAZEH SABOOT DIYYE, KE
AMEER MAAVIA HAZOOR (SAAWAW) KO GANDEE GANDEE GALIYAAN DENE KE BAAD ISLAM SE NIKAL CHUKA THA,
NAUZOBILLAH (SWT)
YEH HAR KOI MANTA HAI, KE HAZOOR (SAAWAW) KI SHAN MAIN GUSTAKHI KE BAAD SAHABI BHI MUSLIM NAHI REHTA,
NAUZUBILLAH (SWT)
ISLIYE USKA ISLAM KHATM HOA TO, SAHABI HONA BHI KHUD BA KHUD KHATM HO GIYAA,

AMIR MAVIA SAHABI NAHI, SAB SE BARI DALEEL

BILKUL ISSY TARAH,

BUKHARI SHARIF KI HADIS LETE HAIN,
TUMNE KAHA NA DALEEL DO,

TO SONO BUKHARI SHARIF KI DALEEL,

HAZOOR (SAAWAW) KE FARMAAN KE MUTABIQ:

QAYAMAT KE DIN, FARISHTE KUCH LOGOON KO HOZ KOSAR SE HATA DENGE, MAIN FARMAOON GA, KE KIUN INKO KION HATA RAHE HO HOZ KOSAR SE, YEH TO MERE SAHABA HAIN,
FARISHTE ARZ KARAIN GE,
YA RASOOL ALLAH (SAAWAW) , KIYA AAP NAHI JAANTE KE INHOON NE AAP KE BAAD KIYA KAAM KIYE YEH DEEN SE HAT GAE THEY,

AB BATAO,


KIA MAVIA KO SAHABI KAHO GE...

THEEK HAI SAHABA (AR) KI IZAT KARO,

MAGAR, HADIS KE MUTABIQ SIRF UN (RA) KI JO AAKHIR DAM TAK SAHI DEEN PE RAE
JO JO, KHARAB HOTA GIA, HADIS KEHTI HAI, WO SAHABI NAHI RAHA,

ME EK BAR PHIR, KEHTA HOON KE GUSTAAKH SHIAH GUSTAAKH HAIN,
PAR YE BAT, BHI MUJHE BHI PATA HAI, AOR MUSLMANOO KE BACHE BACHE KO, KE
HAZOOR (SAAWAW) KA GUSTAKH NOOZOOBILLAH (SWT), UNSE BHI BARA SAB SE BARA GUSTAAKH HAI.

AOR... YE KION KETE HO KE, MAINE TABRA KIA
KIA MENE KITABOON KE SUNNI KITABOON KE HAWALE NAHI DIYE
KIA SABIT NAHI KIA,
KE MAAVIA HAZOOR (SAAWAW) KO GALIYAAN DETA THA NAUZUBILLAH (SWT),
PHIR BATAO, MAVIA KO MAANAIN YA APNE RASOOL (SAAWAW) KO

AB BHI, NAHI SAMJHTE TO, AAI MUSLMAN KAB SAMJHO GE,
WAQT AA GIYA HAI SAMAH JAO,....

Reehab
09-21-2008, 08:37 PM
Lo ab meriphir sunno jinabi aali. socho samjho aur phir baat karo. aapne hadith ka hawala diya kiya us hadithme hazret moavia (RA) ka naem he . jubnahi to tum kiy aala hazret lagy jo hadith ko un se nisbet ker di.
dosribat kiya nabi pak (PBUH) ki terbiyet essi thi ke sahabi baad me galiyan dy jinaby aali nabi ki jomuthi bher foj tiyar thi wohnabi pak (PBUH) ke sachy jansheen thy unki taleemme nabi pak (PBUH) ka asser hi tha ky ap (SA) ke wafat ke bad puri duniya me chaah gaye. afsos aapki kam akli per. khud hikaha ke meripish kerda batein quran hadith se sabit karo toapp bhi sabit karo quran hadith se nake kitaboon se. samjhye app.
aur han quran me he , salheen sidikeen shoheda. yeh kin ko kaha gaya he. aur yeh derjy mil chuky hein nabi pak (PBUH) ke baad abubaker ko khilafet meilli. baki yeh koye hiert kibat nahi jome ne bat ke he woh 100 % sahi he.
aur mey nabi pak (PBUH) ki toheen me tokiyaeik aammsuelman bhiberdasht nahiker sakta unki sahn permeri jaan hazir. aur maaf kerna me ne yeh kaha he ke app ya to qadiyani ya perwezi firky kelagty ho woph bhi dekh lo.
any way jub thoos dallel na ho tokahm khuwa eissi batein nahi kerty. Hazret moavia (RA) eikjalellul qader sahab me se they. mery nazdeek her sahabi motaber he. humein woh kerna he jonabi pak (PBUH) ne kaha. kemer sahab sitaronkemanend he. bus baki apni jhotti dallel apne pass rakho aur jeeny do.

someone
09-21-2008, 11:55 PM
tumne khud kaha, ke, Quran aor HAdis se dalil do, Kitaboon se nahi
to baba
maine Hadis hi Pesh ki hai,
ja kar dekho, Sahi Bukhari ki HAdis hai Jiske Mutabiq Ke
kuch sahaba ko hata dia jaiga, Hoz Kosar se

ab, tumare wo baat to, khatm ho gae na, jo tumne sahaba ki tarbiyat walee baat kee thii,

kiunke HAdis Khud keh rahi hai, sahabi dozakh main jainge.
ab to man lo, ke kuch sahaba jahanam main jainge. kiunke mene Hadis se dalil de dee hai, apni taraf se nahi,
aor tumne bola ke kia is HAdis me amir mavia ka naam hai,
lo gi, amir mavia ki Hadis bi sun lo.

ye bi bukhari aor muslim ki hai, sanad ke sath

Hadis Ke Mutabiq Ke,

Hazrat Amaar (RA) Ko jo giroh qatl kare ga wo jahanami aor baghi giroh hoga.
aor HAzrat Amaar (RA) ko amir mavia ne qatl kiya,
AB TO HADIS NE KEH DIA KE, amir mavia BHI JAHANAM MAIN HAI,

ab to HAdis aa gaee, ab HAdis pe etbar nahi hai, to main kia karoon
Is se BAri Dalil to main kese doon,

aor HAzrat Abu BAkr (RA) Ki FAzeelat Ke Bare main agar Koi Sahi HAdis YA Quran Ki AYat hai to do,
molvioon ki banai hui bidat nahi.
jab HAdis milay to batana,

tumne kaha, HAzrat Abu BAkr (RA) Ko pehli khilafat mili,
to janab yeh fazeelat to nahi,
kiunke, FAzeelat to Akhir MAin Aaney Ki Hoti Hai,
HAzrat Aadam (AS) ko Pehli NAbowat Milli, Aor HAmare NAbi PAAK (SAAWAW) KO AAKHRI
TO FAZEELAT HAZRAT AADAM (AS) KI NAHI BALKE, HAMARE PAAK NABI (SAAWAW) KI HAI,
AOR JAB, YE BAAT SABIT HO GAI, AOR HAR KOI MANTA HAI KE,
AMIR MAVIA NE HAZOOR PAAK (SAAWAW) KO GALIYAAN DEEN AOR LOGOON KO BHI KAHA KE, DO, NAUZUBILLAH (SWT)
TO TUM AB BHI USKO MANO GE?
KION KHUD KO JAHANAM MAIN DAL RAHE HO, ?
GALIAAN DENE WALA OR USKA SATHI DONO, EK HI HOTE HAIN
TUM USKE SATHI BAN RAHE HO?

Ali Mavia
09-22-2008, 01:14 AM
Hazrat Amaar (RA) Ko jo giroh qatl kare ga wo jahanami aor baghi giroh hoga.
aor HAzrat Amaar (RA) ko amir mavia ne qatl kiya,
AB TO HADIS NE KEH DIA KE, amir mavia BHI JAHANAM MAIN HAI,

Reehab
09-22-2008, 11:51 AM
some one tumhari baton se me phir agree nahi kerta tum sirf jhoot aur bohtan keialwa kuch nahi ker sakty jo apna mazhab zahir na kary to us se bahes kerna hi fazool he . itni bari cahhp dety ho per samjh se bala ter hine . mene name poocha app ne apny app se he hadith kopieshker diya . jub sabit nahi ker sakty to bho...e ka koyee haq nahi. aru aap ki dallel na kable kabool he. koyeee authentic dallel lao phir bat karo.

someone
09-23-2008, 11:55 PM
3 SAWAL, AAI HAIN MERI TARAF UNKA JAWAAB, SUN LO.

EK, DAFA BANI ISRAEL QOM NE, HAZRAT MOSA (AS) SE SAWAL KIA,
AAI MOSA (AS) KIA AAP KE KHUDA KO KABHI HANSI BHI ATEE HAI, (BANI ISRALE KI AAM TOR PE ADAT THI, AESE SAWAL KARNE KI, BANA BANA KE)

TO, HAZRAT MOSA (AS) NE TO KHER JAWAB NA DIA SHAYD, MAGAR ALLAH (SWT) TO SUN RAHA THA, ALLAH (SWT) NE HAZRAT MOSA (AS) SE KAHA, KE AAI MOSA (AS) INSE KAHO
KE HAAN ALLAH (SWT) KO DO MOQOON PE HANSI AATEE HAI.

EK US WAQT, JAB, LOG, APNI TARAF SE SAR TOR KOSHISH KARTE HAIN, KE KISI KO BE IZAT KARAIN, MAGAR ALLAH (SWT) USKO IZAT DENA CHAHTA HAI, AOR LOG KOSHISH KAR KAR KE THAK HAR JATE HAIN, AOR ALLAH (SWT) KO UNKI IS KOSHISH PE HANSI ATEE HAI, KIUNKE ALLAH (SWT) APNE BANDE KO IZAT DE DETA HAI.

DOOSRA US WAQT, JAB, LOG, APNI TARAF SE SAR TOR KOSHISH KARTE HAIN, KE KISI KO IZAT DEIN, NAAM ONCHA KARAIN USKA, MAGAR ALLAH (SWT) USKO BE-IZAT AOR ZALIL AOR RUSWA KARNA CHAHTA HAI, AOR LOG APN ZOR LAGA LAGA KE THAK JATE HAIN, AOR ALLAH (SWT) KO UNKI IS KOSHISH PE HANSI ATEE HAI, KIUNKE ALLAH (SWT) USS BANDE KO ZALEEL AOR BE IZAT KARTA HAI.

YE DOOSRI BAAT TO, THEEK AMIR MAVIA KE LIYE HAI, KE ALLAH (SWT) NE AESA FORMULA BANA DIA HAI, APNI HIKMAT SE, KE, JO USKE CHHNE WALE, JO USKSO IZAT DENA CHATE HAIN, WO BHI JAB JAB USKA NAAM LETE HAIN, TO EK GALI MOO SE NIKALTI HAI, KIUNKE LAFZ MAAVIA KA MATLAB , HAZRAT JALAL-UL-DIN SAYOTI (RA) NE RIVAYAT KAR DIA, AOR US MATLAB KO AMIR MAVIA NE KHUD MAANA. KESI TADBEER HAI ALLAH (SWT) KI, USKE APNE CHAHNE WALE USKI IZAT KARNE WALE HI USKA ZIKR KARTE WAQT EK GALI DE KAR ZIKR KARTE HAIN, KIA KRAN ALLAH (SWT) KI TADBEER,
JESA KE BANI ISRAAEL SE FARMAYA THA.

QUESTION NUMBER, 1.

WO GIROH JO BAGHI HAI, WO HAZRAT ALI (AS) KI FOJ MAIN HAI YA NAHI?

ANSWER. 1
YE WO SAWAL HAI, JO KAI SAL PEHLE, EK DEOBANDI RISALA MAIN MENE PARHA THA,
BOHT, HATH PER MAARE JA RAHE THEY KISI TARAH MAVIA KO BACHAYA JAI. AOR ISKA JAWAB USS TIME DE DIA THA. KHER AGAR AB KISI NE MANGA HAI TO, WO BI SUN LE.

HAN SABIT KARO, KE WO GIROH HAZRAT ALI (AS) KI FOJ MAIN THA.
MAGAR

YAAD RAHE KE, HADIS SHARIF MAIN JO SHARAIT PESH KI GAEE HAIN WOH US GIROH PAR POORI UTARTI HOON,
1. EK SHART YEH KE, JESA KE HADIS SHAREEF MAIN FARMAN KE MUTABIQ
HAZRAT AMAAR BIN YASIR (RA) US GIROH KO BULAIN GEY. AOR HAZOOR (SAAWAW) KI HADIS KI EK EK BAAT SACHI SABIT HUE,
KIUNKE, WAQEE, AESA HUA THA KE,
HAZRAT AMAAR BIN YASIR (RA) NE SHAHAADAT SE PEHLE MUKHATIB KAR KE, EK BAGHI GIROH KO ALLAH (SWT) KI ATAAT KI TARAF BULAYA THA, AOR BUKHARI KI HADIS BHI YAHI KEHTI HAI,

AB YE TUMNE SABIT KARNA HAI, KE JIS GIROH KO, HAZRAT AMAAR BIN YASIR (RA) NE MUKHATIB KAR KE, ALLAH (SWT) KI ATAAT KI TARAF BULAYA THA, WO BAGHI GIROH HAZRAT ALI (AS) KE LASHKAR MAIN THA.
JABKE, MAIN YE SABIT KARTA HOON, KE HAZRAT AMAAR BIN YASIR (RA) NE JSI GIROH KO MUKHATIB KARKE, ALLAH (SWT) KI ATAAT KI TARAF BULAYA THA, WO AMIR MAAVIA KA GIROH HI THA.


2. DOOSRI SHART YEH KE, JESA KE HADIS SHAREEF MAIN FARMAN KE MUTABIQ
WOH BHAI GIROH HAZRAT AMAAR BIN YASIR (RA) KO BULAE GA AOR USKA BULANA JAHANAM KI TARAF BULANA HOGA, . TO SABIT KARO, KE JIS GIROH KA AAP ZIKAR KARNA CHAHTE HO, USNE HAZRAT AMAAR (RA) KO BULAYA THA.

WARNA HAM SABIT KARTAY HAIN WO HAZRAT AMAAR BIN YASIR (RA) SE MUKHATIB HONE WALA GIROH, MAAVIA KA GIROH THA.

AB TUM TO JAB SABIT KARO, GE
KIUN NA HAM PEHLE SABIT KAR HI DAIN, AOR YE BAAT HAR KOI JANTAA HAI, KE, SABOOT KI AHMIAT TO BAAD KI BAAT HAI, JAB EK BANDA IQBAL-E JURM KAR LE, TO NA KOI SABOOT MANGE JAATE HAIN NA GAWAH.
KIUNKE TUMHAA DOOSRA QUESTION, YAHI HAI, KE MAIN SABIT KAROON KE AMIRM MAVIA NE QATL KIA THA. TO ISSY BAAT KO DOOSRE QUESITON MAIN SABIT KARTE HAIN.

QUESTION NUMBER, 2.
TUMNE KAHA, MAIN KESE KEH SAKTA HOON, KE QATL AMIR MAVIA NE KIYA.
ANSWER. 2

TO SONO, SIRF MAIN HI NAHI KEH RAHA , TUMHARA MUDAAI, KHUD AMIR MAAVIA, IQBAAL-E-JURM KAR RAHA HAI KE, HAAN MAIN HI QATIL HOON.

KHER USKE, IQBAL-E-JURM SE PEHLE, TUMKO WO DO SHARAIT TO SABIT KAR DOON, JINKA HADIS MAIN TAZKARA AYAA HAI, AOR JINKA MAINE OOPER BHI LIKHA HAI.

HAM SUNIOON KI BOHT PURANI MUSTANID KITAAB, TAREEKH IBNE KHALDOON MAIN, LIKHA HAI KE, JANG-E- SIFEEN, MAIN, JAB DONO LASHKAR AAMNE SAMNE, HUE, TO HAZRAT AMAAR BIN YASIR (RA) NE AMIR MAVIA KE LASHKAR KO HAZRAT ALI (ASW) KE SACHA AOR HAQ PE HONE KI DALIL DE KAR, SEEDHE RASTE PE AANE KI DAWAT DEE. JO KE HADIS KE MUTABIQ HAZRAT AMAAR BIN YASIR (RA) KA UNKO JANAT KI TARAF BULNA THA.
BILKUL ISSY TARAH, MAVIA KE LASHKAR KI TARAF SE AMR BIN AAS APNI WIKALAT MAIN BOLTE HUE, BARAHE RAST HAZRAT AMAAR BIN YASIR (RA) SE HI MUKHATIB HUA JESA KE HADIS MAIN HAI...
KIUNKE AMR BIN AAS, USS TIME HAZRAT ALI (ASW) KE LASHKAR KE KISI AOR COMMONDAR SE MUKHATIB NAHI HUA, DIRECT HAZRAT AMAAR BIN YASIR (RA) SE HI MUKHATIB HUA, AOR YAHI UNKA BULANA, HADIS KE MUTABIQ JAHANAM KI TARAF BULANA THA.
YE POORA MAKALMA, JO HUA THA, WO KITAB MAIN LIKHA HAI, JO APNI APNI WIKALAT MAIN BOLA GIYA. JE KE HAZRAT AMAAR BIN YASIR (RA) KE SATH SHAHADAT SE PEHLE HUA.

AB AOO, IQBAL-E-JURM KI TATRAF.
AMIR MAAVIA KA QAATIL HONE KA IQBALE JURM, AOR MAAN LENA KE BAGHI WALI HADIS MERE BARE MAIN HI HAI. (MUDAI SUST GAWAH CHUST)

HAZRAT MOLANA JAAMI (RA) AHLESUNAT MAIN SIRF AALIM KA DARJA NAHI RAKHTE BALKE, WILAYAT KE DARJE PE MAANA JATA HAI, AOR AAP (RA) KE BARE MAIN MASHHOOR HAI, KE SHIA KE KHILAAF KAAM KIYA, BOHT, AOR BOHT ZIYADA SHIAT KE MUKHALIF SAMJHE JATE HAIN. AAP (RA) KI MASHHOOR KITAB
SHAWAHID-E-NABOOWAT (SAAWAW),
MAIN WAQEA DARJ HAI, KE.
JAB HAZRAT AMAAR BIN YASIR (RA) KI SHAHADAT HO GAI TO AMR BIN AAS NE AMIR MAAVIA KO BATAYA KE, HAZRAT AMAAR (RA) KO TO HAMNE QATL KAR DIYA, AB KIA HOGA, BAGHI GIROH WALI HADIS TO HAMARE KHILAAF SABIT HO GAEE.
AB AMIR MAAVIA KA JAWAB BHI SUN LO AOR HANSO.
AAI AMR BIN AAS, BAS BAS AB KHAMOSH HO JAO, AGAR TUMNE YE SACH LOGOON KO BATA DIA KE HAZRAT AMAAR BIN YASIR (RA) KE QAATIL HAM HAIN, TO LOG HAMARE MUKHALIF HO JAIN GE. IS LIYYE HAMAIN APNE HI PEEESHAB MAIN, NAHI LITHARNA CHAYE. HAM EK KAAM KARTE HAIN, KE LOGOON SE KEHTE HAIN KE, THEEK HAI, QATL HAMNE KIA HAI, HAZRAT AMAAR BIN YASIR (RA) KO, MAGAR BUNYADI QAATIL HAM NAHI HAIN,. KIUNKE,
AGAR HAZRAT ALI (AS) HAZRAT AMAAR (RA) KO NA LAATE JANG MAIN TO HAM BHI QATL NA KARTE, ISS LIYE, YE ILZAAM HAZRAT ALI (AS) PE AATA HAI, KE WO KIUN LAAE, HAZRAT AMAAR (RA) KO.
JAB YEH BAAT HAZRAT ALI (AS) KE PAS POHNCHI KE MAAVIA ISS TARAH TAVEEL KAR RAHA HAI, TO BAAB-E MADINA-TUL-ILM, HAZRAT ALI (AS) KA JAWAAB BHI SUNO KE AAP (AS) KE ILM KI KIYAA BAAT, KE AESA JAWAB.
HAZRAT ALI (AS) KE FARMAN KE MUTABIQ. AGAR MAAVIA ISS TARAH KEHTA HAI, TO PHIR TO, HAZRAT HAMZA (RA) KE QATIL, HAZOOR PAAK (SAAWAW) HUE, NA KE MUKHAALFIN. KIUNKE HAZRAT HAMZA (RA) KO BHI TO HAZOOR (SAAWAW) JANG MAIN LAAE THEY.
WAH NUKTA DEKHO KE, HAZRAT ALI (AS) NE JAWAB MAIN MISAAL BHI HAZRAT HAMZA (RA) KI DEE JO AMIR MAAVIA KE KHAANDAN BANI UMAYA KE HATHOON QATL HUE THEY AOR SABIT KAR DIA, JIS TARAH MERE PAAK CHACHA (RA) KE QAATIL TUMHARE KHANDAAN WALE HAIN, AOR HAZOOR (SAAWAW) PAAK NAHI,
BILKUL USSI TARAH, HAZRAT AMAAR BIN YASIR (RA) KO JANG MAIN LAANE WALA MAIN QATIL NAHI, BALKE UNN (RA) KO QATL KARNE WALA TOO MAAVIA HI QAATIL HAI. MAT BAHANE TILAASH KAR BACHNE KE.
ISS WAQEA KO, EK AOR MOHADIS BALKE SAB MOHADSEEN KE USTAD,
SHAH ABDUL HAQ MOHADIS DEHLVI NE BHI NAQL KIA HAI. JO SHAH WALI ULLAH AOR SHAH ABDUL AZIZ MOHADIS DEHLVI KE USTADOON KE BHI USTAAD HAIN.

AB BATAO, EK BANDA APNE QATL KA IQBALE JURM KARKE, WO ALFAAZ KEHTA HAI JO KE AAM SE AAM MOHADIS BHI JANTA HAI KE:

HAMAIN APNE HI PEESHAB MAIN NAHI LITHARNA CHAYE, AOR JO QATL HAMNE KIA ISS QATL KAY ILZAM KA RUKH DOSRI TARAF MOR DENA CHAYE

AOR USKE, YE ALFAAZ , HAR HAR US AAM MOHADISSEN NE BHI NAQL KIYE HAIN JISNE YE WAQEA NAQL KIA HAI,
JAB TAK, HAZRAT AMAAR BIN YASIR (RA) KE QATL (NAUZUBILLAH (SWT)) KA ZIKR HAI, AOR JAB TAK, BUKHARI AOR MUSLIM KI BAGHI WALI HADIS KA ZIKR HAI,
MAAVIA KE YE ALFAAZ THOKA BAJA KAR, USKE IQBALE JURM KA CHARHCHA KARTE RAHEN GE, KE
HAMAIN APNE HI PEESHAB MAIN NAHI LITHARNA CHAYE,


MUDAAI SUST GAWAAH CHUST
MAVIA SHARE AAM KEH RAHA HAI, KE QATL MENE KIA HAI, KHUD MENE, AOR AAJ EK BANDA KEH RAHA HAI, KE NAHI NAHI, TUMNE NAHI KIA QATL, KISI AOR NE KIA HOGA. PAGAL NA BANO,
CHALO AB EK AOR HAWALA.
AAJ AGAR 2 SAL KA KOI BACHA JHOOLAY MAIN SOTE SOTE, BOLE, KE AMIR MAAVIA NE HAZRAT AMAAR BIN YASIR (RA) KO QATL NAHI KIYA, TO HAM USS 2 SAAL KE BACHE KI BAAT MAAN LAIN YA AHLESUNAT KE ITNE BARE AALIM, HAZRAT MULLA ALI QARI, KE ISS BIAAN KI PERVI KRAIN.
KE, MULA ALI QARI NE TO DIRECT SAAF, PARDA FASH KAR DIYA, AOR KEH DIA KE,
HAZRAT AMAAR BIN YASIR (RA) KO AMIR MAAIA NE QATL KIYA JO KE BAGHI THA.

HAWALA: SHARAH MISHKAAT BY HAZRAT MOLA ALI QARI (RA)

HAZRAT ALAMA ABU BAKR AL JASAS
KITAAB AHKAAM UL QURAN MAIN, BAGHI WALI HADIS KO AMIR MAAVIA SE JORTE HUE NAZAR AATE HAIN,

DEOBANDIOOON KE CHAHEETE IBNE TAIMIYAH KA FAISLA BHI SUN LO....
AOR BATAO, KE, IS FAISLE KE MUTABIQ KIA MAAVIA JAHANMI BANTA HAI YA NAHI...
IBNE TAIMIYAAH APNI KITAAB, MAJMA U FATAWA MAIN LIKHTA HAI,

HAZRAT AMAAR (RA) KE BAARE MAIN JO HADIS HAI US SE SABIT HO JATA HAI KE,
JIS JIS NE BHI HAZRAT ALI (AS) KE KHILAAF JANG KEE WO SAB JAHANMI HAIN.
AB BATAO, MAIN KAHAAN JAOON,, MAAVIA KO BACHANE WALO
TUMHARA SAB SE BARA, AAALIM, IBNE TAMIYAAH KEH RAHA HAI KE MAAVIA KHUD JAHANAMI HAI AOR BAGHI GIROH WALI HADIS USSI KE BAARE MAIN HAI.



AB AHLESUNAT KE ISS ITNE BARE HAWALA KO PARH LENE KE BAAD, JIS MAIN SAAF LIKHA HAI MAAVIA HI QATIL AOR BAGHI THA, AGAR KOI, AB KEHTA HAI KE, MAIN PURAANE AHLESUNAT KE ULMA KI TEHQEEEQ KE KHILAAF HOON TO TO USKO CHAYE KE AHLESUNAT CHOR DE, PHIR


AB TAK TO TAQREEBAN IS TOPIC PE BAAT HUEE KE MAAVIA QATIL THA YA NAHI, AB EK AOR BAAT KAR LAIN...

AB TUMNE YEH KAHA NA KE, BAGHI GIROH MAVIA KA GIROH NAHI BALKE, KOI AOR HAI,
TO, ZARA DEKHTE HAIN, PORAANE ULMA HAZRAAT KI BAAT SACHI HAI, YA TUMHARI.

DEOBANDI BRELVI KE MUSTANID MOHADIS SHAH ABDUL AZIZ MOHADIS DEHLVI NE, LIKHA,

ISPE EHLAESUANT KA IJMA HAI, AOR AHLESUANT KI SAB KUTUB KA FAISLA HAI, KE
MAVIA BAGHI THA.

HAZRAT JALAL-UL-DIN SAYOTI (RA) NE FARMAYA KE AMIR MAVIA BAGHI THA (TAREKH-UL-KHULFA)

"SHARAH UL MAQASID" MAIN HAI KE, YEH AHLESUNAT KA AQEEDAH HAI KE, ISLAM MAIN SAB SE PEHLA BAGHI MAAVIA THA.

ZARA APNE GHAR KI SOORAT HAL BHI DEKH LO
ASHRAF ALI THAANVI NE KAHA KE MAVIA BAGHI THA




AB KOI MUJHE BATAE, KE, KOI NIA NIA SUNNI WO BAAT MAANE, JISPE POORANE NAI SAB AHLESUNAT KA IJMA HAI, YA PIR USS BABY KI BAAT MAANE, JO 15TH SADDI MAIN 2 SAL KI AGE MAIN JHOOLAY MEIN SOTE HUE KEH RAHA HAI, KE MAAVIA BAGHI NAHI THA, MAAVIA QATIL NAHI THA, BAGHI ARO QATIL KOI AOR THA. JABKE AHLESUNAT KE NAZDEEK IJMA KI AHMIAT YEH HAI KE, IJMA KHUD ISLAM KA, HISA HAI

ISKE ILAAWA AOR BOHT BOHT BARE BARE HAWALE HAIN,, JIN MAIN MAAVIA KO BAGHI KAHA GIYAA.... AOR TUM KEHTE HO KE BAGHI KOI AOR THA. AB KIA SAB HAWALE LIKHOON??????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????

QUESTION NUMBER 3.
MUJHSE POOCHA GIA KE. KIA MAIN, BUKHARI KI HADIS PE IS LIYE ETBAR KARTA HOON KE, BUKHARI KI HADIS HAI YA, IS LIYE KE MERE MATLAB KEE HAI.

ANSWER 3
MAIN APNE MATLAB KO NAHI DEKHTA, MAIN AHLESUNAT KI HADESOON KI KITABOON KO DEKHTA HOON.
AOR, BUKHARI KI HADIS PE ETBAR ISS LIYE, KE IS HADIS KA RAD KISI AOR AHLESUNAT KI BOOK MAIN SABIT NAHI HOTA, MUTWATIR BHI HAI. HAAN AGAR RAD KISI AOR AHLESUNAT KI BOOK MAIN AA JATA YA, KOI AOR HADIS AA JATEE JO ISS HADIS KO GHALAT SABIT KAR DETI, TAB IS HADIS KI ANAD PE SHAK HO JATA. AOR IS HADIS PE WESE KISI KO SHAK NAHI.


BAGHI SABIT HO JANE KE BAAD, HAZRAT IMAM ABI HANIFA (RA) KA FATWA.

BAGHI KA JANAZA MAT PARHO (SHARAH MUSLIM)
DURRE MUKHTAR MAIN YE BHI HAI KE
BAGHI KO NA GHUSL DO NA JANAZA PARHO.
UMAT KA IJMA HAI AMIR MAVIA BAGHI THA

Ali Mavia
09-24-2008, 02:19 AM
Lagta hai app Aese Nahi Manengay Or WaHi Purana Riwayati Tareeka Jo Her Ganday GhaLeez Or Badbudaar Tabbarraie Ke Saath Apnaya Jata Hai Wahi Tumharay Saath Apnaya Jaye !!!

Sahaba Ke Chahne Walo ka Forum hai Yaa , To Agar Kisi Sahabi Per Sawal Jawab Karna Bhi Hai To Izzat o Ahtaram Or Sharafat Ke Dairay Main Reh Ker Ashab-e-Rasool(Saww) Ka Naam Lena Abb ainda Se ...

Abhi Yahi Request Karni Hai , Ramzan Ke Akhri Ashray ChaL Rahay Hain ishi Liyee time ki Maximum Tadad ibadaat Main Guzar Rahi Hain Or Forum Per Anna Kaam Ho Raha Hai..

SaLam,

someone
09-24-2008, 03:05 AM
zara, wo alfaaz, wo sentences, yahan copy paste karo, , jo ke, tumari nazar me, sahi sentences nahi they?

Reehab
09-24-2008, 09:38 AM
zara, wo alfaaz, wo sentences, yahan copy paste karo, , jo ke, tumari nazar me, sahi sentences nahi they? wh jinab eik to unke khilaf bolty ho bad me kehty ho zara batao kahan per use kiye hien me ne pehlybhi kaha tha aur ab bhi keh raha hoon . keh jallelul qader sahabioon ke bary me tabra kerni ki ijazet nahi he per tum baaz nahi aye tum lagta he shiuon ki ollad me se ho . aur woh wali oolaad jo ke.******* se ****** hoti he samjh gaye ho gay tum ab.

someone
09-24-2008, 04:35 PM
pehle wo alfaz sentences copy paste karo, jo, tmari nazar me yahan nahi likhne chaye.
i think perhaps, taake baad me topic pe munazra ho sake.